'Spice' incense contains designer cannabinoids

12:00am, My window still open from my previous session, now was furiously blowing my curtains inside my room; bringing with it much rain and wind..i shut the window, shutting off circulation in my room...my oscillating fan and my ceiling fan were now on full speed, chopping away at the air as I melted into my armchair in front of my tv. Soon, the chopping became louder and louder, the buzzing vibration of the fan reverberated and echoed in the back of my skull and crawled behind my eyes; buzzing and chopping and a low humming that seemed to drive me mad. I stumbled up, nearly falling into my floor fan attempting to turn it off before collapsing on my bed for a moment.

Time had warped around me, I had forgotten entirely about smoking and my head wrapped around dreaming....I had always been a lucid dreamer, and even without aid of herbal incense I occassionaly had trouble discerning waking life from dreamlife.......This was different however, it made me question whether or not my sober self was the dream and this the reality. My heart raced, my mouth dry, I quenched my parch lips with rasberry tea, which found its way through every crack and crevice in my teeth to deliver a cold stinging sensation to my entire head. Thoughts of my parents walking in and questioning my odd behavior raced through my mind...Whenever there is doubt as to whether or not they would disturb me, I default back to turning the power off on my tv and laying in bed; riding out the storm and the trip.

The storm picked up. The walls of my old old house creaked and cracked; the walls of my room seemed to be breathing. My window, shaking and vibrating in its track; pressed against the wind and rain. Phone check had alerted me that time was now 12:24, one hour into my trip....i texted my ex girlfriend a good safe night. Message sent at 12:14, and time had warped around me again. Feelings of deja vu swept over me, as I felt like I had experienced this exact event many times before. The blinding light of my 60 inch television illuminated my entire room with cartoons from my childhood. When in doubt, turn the power out. Clumsily, I crawled out of bed and turned the power on my tv off...again. My head was spinning, and voices in my head reassured me I need to snap back to reality. The voices became louder and louder the farther up my bed I crawled, until they seemed to come from my head in the direction that my wisdom owl and protective dragon statues began to talk to me. I needed to snap back to reality.

I woke up, high and dry; quenching both of my needs with rasberry tea....now with ice melted and watered down; time check 12:24 and the TV was still on, playing an episode of Tom and Jerry...blindly I felt up the side of my television, feeling for the power button which ever seemed to escape me. To my left stands a wavy mirror, which I glanced at myself in....An old friend once told me, never stare at yourself in a mirror....but my reflection seemed to stare back at me with eyes too dark to see. My jaw muscles tightened and my reflection let out a slight smirk.
I collapsed back onto my queen sized inflatable mattress, slightly deflated from poor room temperature circulation. My bed, covered by many many pillows of different sizes, textures, fluffyness and comfortableness proved troublesome.....Tossing and turning I tried to find the perfect pillow to make me fall asleep. The white one was too hot and fluffy. The brown one too uncomfortably hard. The red maryland pillow, inched its way up my body to provide warmth and fluffyness to me. The other pillows seemed jealous, and in my tossing and turning numerous pillows found their way on top of me. The big red maryland pillow still on top of me seemed to provide a reprise from the uncomfortable feelings the other pillows brought me; and in my tossing and turning the red pillow seemed to fight the other stuffed demons off of me.

6:00am and I crawl dizzily out of bed. Television and ceiling fan not working assured me the hurricane had claimed our power as one of its victims. Tea lights emanated from deep within my collection of salt rock lamps, presenting with an eerie glow that escaped my memory completely. I could not recollectt he last 5 hours of my trip; thoughts question as to how much had been played out in reality, and what had my mind conjured up. Lips cracked I sought to aide them with warm and watery rasberry tea...my cat sits silently on my floor, staring at me with glowing eyes in my dark sheltered room.....

I have had terrible experiences and ridiculously good ones. It is possible to learn how to do this drug so it is very enjoyable every time. I recommend finding a good brand and sticking with it. Some aren't as good as others. I smoked a brand called Turbo potpourri and if you can find it I would recommend. There are definitely some good ones out there but this sh*t makes me feel like I'm on ecstasy and high at the same time. Best high ever IMO.

The other negative is this stuff is completely unregulated. It can be as strong as good bud, it can be 10X that. Even in a 3 gram jar the last half can be a lot stronger than the top, as the little bits of chemical sift to the bottom. I've had some that had stuff that looked like bug cocoons in it.

If you've gotta get high, smoke the genuine stuff. If you have to pass drug tests, then give it up. Is it worth your health, your sanity, and your job.

And this stuff ain't cheap. Much of it is $10-15 a gram.

And here's a good question.

IS IT ME OR WHEN YOU GET HIGH, IS IT A COINCIDENCE TO SEE SHIT YOU WOULDNT NORMALLY SEE?

I got high one time and saw a kid(about 8) walking in the street with storm trooper armor on.

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some stuff is just to fucking strong and some stuff is just way to weak, so try to stay with a consistent brand and type and switch it out if you build do much of a tolerance, because seriously it can be way to strong, like i was at a friends house and it felt like i was sleeping while standing up and i wasn't in my body and i saw a motherfucking gremlin in the hallway then it disappeared, but then it can be way to weak, like i took 10 hits without getting a decent buzz going.

but overall, you can get almost the same effects of weed with this stuff but it just tastes shitty, but out of everything don't worry, if you worry it will make you have the worst time ever so just be calm about it and everything will be fine.

Is it just me, or does the irony seem a bit thick in here today?

At the beginning of my Sophmore year the gas station across the street started selling all sorts of spice. I got curious and I decided to try some Red Magic and Mojo. We just bought a cigarillo and emptied it and packed the thing. We went over to Plant Park and smoked the thing. Now before this I just had Black Mamba at the hookah bar. I had no clue how much I should smoke I just wanted to smoke until I got high. Well, I took about 4 good hits and then I freaked. My heart was beating uncontrollably and I thought I was having a heart attack. Everything was in slow motion and things began to lose their meaning. I was panicking and I thought I would end mentally challenged for the rest of my life. I was asking my friend to call 911 but he knew I was just panicking and tried to calm me down. Poor guy couldn't enjoy his high that night. The next day I felt I was still in slow motion but I was ok.

This is what happens when you smoke too much at first. You freak out on your first time because you have no tolerance to this stuff and you smoke too much. Going from a bit high to super crazy high will scare you because you don't know what being really high is. If you smoke weed you will know what its like to be high and it wont be that bad. Smoking a small amount until you know your limits is what you should do. Either go to a hookah bar or get someone who smokes spice to help you out if you wanna try it for the first time.

After that little disaster I knew I smoked too much and I didn't want that experience to scare me away from all spice/incense. I tried it again a week later and took a few hits. This time I felt much better. I knew what I could experience and I was prepared. I knew I was going to be ok and I relaxed and just tried to enjoy it as much as possible. I had a good time and I have ever since. Everything is much more interesting high.

There are a few fun effects and side effects I have noticed. (If you smoke weed you will know many of these) I get drowsy when I smoke and if its night I wanna sleep. Dreams are interesting as hell, but you dont wanna get up next morning. There is no way you can do college work when you get really high on this stuff, because you get super lazy. Somehow my stoner friends can function like normal human beings on weed, but I wouldn't expect that smoking spice. If I eat a big meal and I am full and go smoke, I want to eat more. You do get the munchies on this and mad cotton mouth so be prepared. Everything tastes ridiculously better! Video games are fucking awesome high and it seems to focus me and my thoughts. Expect many random thoughts at once. It seems like your mind is a bit scattered and you can zone for a long time, but its fun. Everything seems like a contradiction. Everything seems new to you, but you know everything is the same. Words can sometimes seem odd but normal. It's hard to explain. Things seem to take longer than usual and you get really red eyes. You looks stoned and its hard to hide it so make sure you dont have to be around to many sober people you do get paranoid. Everyone knows! Oddly I must say I get horny when I smoke. That usually kicks in after about an hour and your thoughts just go from scattered to sex. I am a 20 year old college student so that could be why. Overall, you do seem much more relaxed and feel good. You have no worries when you smoke and you dont care about problems you have.

I have smoked many different brands of spice. I noticed that you get much higher whenever you change the brand you smoke. If you wanna start smoking start with a little bit of Red Magic or Black Mamba. I think these aren't as intense as the lesser known brands. I can smoke an entire cigarillo of Red Magic now and feel nothing. Waste of $11 and proof that you do build tolerances to this stuff. Mojo was potent, Dragon Eye is intense, White Rhino was good, K2 was great, Cool Beans was ok, Monster was ok, Cuban Dream was ok too. If your a veteran and want to get super high there are a few spices that will destroy you. Golden Buddha kicked my ass, Comatose Candy was scary powerful, and fusion was the best I had. With Fusion and Comatose Candy all you need is to pack a pinch of it and you will be gone for hours. Yes, I said hours. Great stuff! I smoked Fusion with my friends that smoke weed 2-4 times a day and they said they got too high. I did pack 2 full cigarillos with the stuff and we shared them between the 4 of us. DO NOT smoke this stuff unless you have smoked for a while.

My friends who smoke weed say that the highs are different between spice and weed. Spice is more of a head high and it can fell a lot more intense than weed depending on what you smoke. Some people dont like spice much and just stick to weed. You might not get as high, but they can function and do work and stuff.

I have mixed spice and alcohol a few times and it feels crazy. You are super relaxed, but you can also act like a damn fool and look totally obvious that your fucked up. It is really funny to watch this though. Don't drink too much, just get tipsy if you wanna mix the two. if you drink or smoke too much you wont feel good, you will feel like its too hard to focus on anything and you will want to go right to bed.

The best way to smoke it in my opinion is through a cigarillo. Its easy and you can pack the hell out of the stuff so you will get ripped. Packing a bowl doesn't seem to work as well for me, but rolling a j could if you know how to do it well. Hookah is fun but once you stop smoking the hookah the high wears off very fast. All spice/incense tastes bad to me so be prepared for that.

This is everything I think I can tell you. There isn't much info on this and that does sketch me out a bit. This was just my personal experiences and the purpose was to inform you on what you might experience if you wanna try this. Stay safe and dont go over your limit and you will be just fine. Smoking this stuff can be a great time if you do it right.

Actually, science teaches us that nature is ambivalent. Gravity, for instance, may make life possible (by allowing at atmosphere to accrete to the earth), but it also kills a lot of people.

There are different (and IMO better) ways of looking at the world, but they're not based in "science."

Weed is SUPER strong now...it's been AWESOME FOR YEARS NOW!!!!! However, it is not the bud I grew up with...and I'm barely only 30. Nowadays, like soooo many people I've gotta stop puffin to better my life. But now these new buds are soooo strong they come with a price when you quit......TRUE ADDICTION!

It is unfortunate that Marijuana has become too powerful and is becoming what many would consider a 'real drug'. It is also unfortunate that when people stop using Marijuana they are now so addicted that a new market has opened up.....hence all of these 'legal pot' replacements. And now a new 'drug war' has begun against them...

ALL the potheads I know have the same problem...some admit it...some deny it so keep tokin anyway. We get insomnia, cannot get hungry without weed, some of us get depressed, can't focus, have no motivation, and in general CANNOT QUIT for more than a few days to few weeks. So many of us are looking for some relief in pot withdrawal...but weed is so unique in what it does to the human mind it is almost impossible to find.

Which leads me to these "legal weeds' that are sooooo popular.
They are ALL currently some kind of "Damiana Based Product". It doesn't matter what they are called...K2, Spice, Red Magic, ect. They will have a large base of Damiana or other similar herbs. This is because old 'legal' cannabinoids are illegal and you can't just spray them on any harmless herb anymore. You need the kind of herbs that will make you 'trip' when done in excess and/or put other chemicals on them to help out.

Google Damiana and other herbs like Canavalia maritima, Nymphaea caerulea, Scutellaria nana, Pedicularis densiflora, Leonotis leonurus, Zornia latifolia, Nelumbo nucifera and Leonurus sibiricus, which are said to be found in Spice and K2 among others. BE SMART AND RESEARCH WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR BODY! Look at side effects, benefits, how they are supposed to be used, and what happens when you overdose...if it has even been researched!

An "overdose" by SMOKING Damiana will cause panic attacks, dizziness, insomnia, hallucinations, and "near death experiences" or in other words "awesome trips" to those who don't know the difference.

There are MANY BENEFITS to Damiana when used properly. Using it properly DOES NOT INVOLVE SMOKING IT. It can aid in sexual desire of both sexes, digestion, used as an antiseptic, and act as an anti-depressant or mood stabilizer. It also can lower the blood sugar level in some people so caution needs to be taken.

I will say that Damiana is fun!...when smoked right. I do not like the headaches and the odd feelings that can come with it the next day...especially when you do too much. As far as the recently outlawed synthetic cannabinoids, I have not had the pleasure of trying them. It seems that big brother will not let us have that much fun...big surprise!

Understand that NONE of these "blended" products have had proper research done on them. There is no proven facts that can predict how one person will react to a specific versus another to a different blend. If there are no ingredients on the packaging then the company is not reputable at all...guaranteed! You will truly be your own guinea pig.

So...if you are a stupid kid...be a stupid kid. That's what you are supposed to do when you are young.

If you need to stop getting high for some reason...grow up and stop getting high or just get high and accept the consequences that will come from being a pothead.

God Bless :-)

Actually, to be a bit pedantic, hemp is the original. "Weed," (i.e. Marijuana, cannabis) is a creation of man, a plant that has been genetically manipulated through thousands of years of selective breeding so that the psychoactivity is accentuated.

If you want to be an natural as possible, you should be smoking hemp, not MJ. You won't get high to speak of, but the headaches will be all natural!

I smoked too much I think. Just don't do it. I threw my shit away and will never fucking buy it again. This shit will fucking get you addicted and kill you because it's unregulated and they want money. Don't do it if you want to live. I feel so fucking lucky. Weed will not kill you. This will. Especially if you have a weak heart or any internal problems already.

My body was shaking inside and out. I still can't fucking type right.

"Not all of this k2 incense stuff is illegal. For instance, [link] offers several products that are completely legal in all of the United States and even beyond.",

Why do you say this? Because some anonymously registered company (check out their domain registration information) based in some unspecified country says it's so? Claims made from he same industry that vehemently denied any chemical additives until they were caught red-handed? In all seriousness, I wouldn't believe such claims, as these vendors have a proven track record of lying.

When Spice first came out, the manufacturer (Psychedeli) claimed that there were no additives and that their product was merely a mixture of herbs. They repeated these claims until they were caught in a way that they could no longer deny (chemical analysis), and I'm afraid all of their competition has copied their strategy.

You can't believe everything you read on the Internet. It may be true that their products are legal, but how would you know?

What's more, there really are only a handful of synthetic cannabinoids that have been discovered thus far, and because governments -- especially the UK -- have started banning entire classes of chemicals now (and not just specific chemicals), the governments absolutely can win the game when it comes to declaring things illegal. The people who write the rule book usually can win the games.

I agree that prohibition is futile -- all evidence points in that direction. But not because people will continue coming up with new legal drugs. Eventually the governments are going to get tired of that game and write the rules so that this can't happen. They tried with the analog laws, and while there have been legal challenges to these (at least in the US), they'll probably do better on their next attempt.

I would like to ask that you consider the fact that head shops, online stores, and convenience stores is where our youth is getting synthetic drugs...from what I've observed and researched online, the majority of these businesses are owned by Muslim Terrorist who are attacking our next generation, please, consider that and discuss this with your advisors and consider what further actions to take. Please, is there any way that you could make a TV commercial about the dangers of all the synthetic drugs. I see no commercials warning our children about the dangers of synthetic drugs. Yesterday, Yahoo had a link on the front page about our youth snorting, smoking, and injecting bath salts...that was a very sad article. I believe that TV channels need to start being flooded with commercials warnings to our children about these dangers that lurk around the corner convenience store and head shops...these commercials should be going off like the sirens in an Emergency Alert System.

oh&& im like 90 lbs not even and ive been smoking this shit like religiously for about 4 months and ive never had a single problem. i dont get paranoid or shake. i just get FUUUCCCKKKKKEEEDDDD UPPP. personallyy i dont think it should be banned because more ppl die from alcohol poisoning and yet thats still legal.

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if you choose to smoke it thats your choice but if plain old weed is available to you i would recommend that by far.

I liked the fact that it was legal to buy and if this stuff kept someone from buying crack or meth, or drugs from the Mexican cartel, then I think it should stay legal .

Don't smoke weed either. But if your gonna smoke, crikey, don't poison yourself with this horseshit.

Nah but I like some of the spice brands, spike max seamed to be most potent I've tried. Just watch out because there are a lot of fake k2 brands. also I tried/liked xen herbal blend. WEED IS LEGAL(in a frame of mind). as soon as people see and understand this, then the government will realize it. The people hold the power, and a plant that grows wild cannot be illegal!

Weed should be legal,and will be one day(if we ever decide to realize we all have the power in us to stand up and aquire true freedom and peace)why does life have to be so technical?

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In my opinion as well as MANY OTHERS I know of Space Original Oribit Incense is THE BEST BY FAR!

Do NOT WASTE your time or money on any other of that crap. SERIOUSLY! I have spent thousands on Space and it acts as ALMOST THE REAL THING. IF NOT BETTER. I could smoke the real stuff but chose not to due to the WONDERFUL UPLIFTING FEELING I get from Space.

JUST thought I'd tell everyone Its worth the money, don't waste it buying that other crap.

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Here is the evidence that it is legalize and in the processes of legalizing Marijuana in other states :)

And you believed her?

Seems very strange, considering there is no THC in the material.

Oh my good Lord, I had a panic attack the size of Texas.

I'm done with all drugs for the rest of the year, including my beloved Cannabis plant lol.

Can probation dictate states of consciousness?

soooo truuuueee^^^^^ i smoked it yestarday and still feel it i smoked voodoo spice its ultra strong

I don't know when the last post was but I hope some of you see this.

I'm a Firefighter. I've been on for 2 years (this past may). I work long hours and I see a lot of horrible stuff. I have a really bad sleeping disorder..and this stuff makes me sleep like a baby. So when I get off I like to go home and just relax a little.. so I smoke this spice stuff. Mainly Shaman, Skunk, damiana, spice diamond, spice gold.. They just banned JWH018, jwh073,hu210,hu211, and salvia in TN. Ive been smoking this new stuff called "woodstock" (which is the only thing they carry now) which has (several times) "THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS NO JWH018, JWH073,HU210,HU211, OR salvia" So I dont know what the hell is in it now if thats true..cause it still works.

Anyways, Ive been smoking it for a good 6 months now. And I mean every day I'm off all day until I go to bed. Ive developed this horrendous cough that makes me cough to the point where I acually puke. Its really scary. I beleive I'm in fairly good shape. I just got back from the Fire academy in december (wasnt smoking it yet) and I could wear all that gear alll damn day in the heat house, hump hose, run 3 miles, carry 75 lbs of hose up 6 flights of stairs and down and still be good to go. I say that not to brag but to say this.. Since I have been smoking this shit my cardiovascular strength has been getting progressively worse. Now, just a brisk walk raises my BPM considerably. Now just getting IN my gear let alone working and running in it, makes me breath hard and my BPM shoot up. Also, I sweat profoundly now. Seriously. Like dripping from my face and soaking my shirt just barely doing anything.

BUT THIS IS WHAT REALLY SCARED ME

I recently cleaned my bong and I was horrified. It was clogged with this sticky, thick black resin that clung and stuck on to everything it touched (still on my fingers). Which got me thinking...maybe this shit is like coating my lungs with all that black shit. That would make perfect since.

SO I DID AN EXPERIMENT

(This is disgusting)

For about a week I saved all my phlegm in a cup. It was grayish/black and you could actually see clumps of black shit in it. This scared the shit out of me so I am going to stop it for a while and see what happens.

I'm honestly concerned. Who knows wtf these people are putting in this to get you high.

Sure, huffing gasoline and paint will get you high...but at what cost you know?

I'll keep you guys updated. better, worse, etc

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Current state-by-state legislation against synthetic cannabinoids is included in the second link.

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It's entirely possible that, owing to statistical variations, measurement error, and flaws in protocol that everyone would fail at some point, given enough tests. No piece of testing equipment is 100% accurate and reliable.

i am on probation and get drugtested twice a week, and i smoked a shit ton of spice that weekend and on sunday i smoked like a quarter gram by myself, even tho i was completely ruined and couldnt walk, and was so messed up i couldnt, walk, or stay awake, two days later on tuesday i passed a drug test, so people who say they cant pass drug test smoking spice, obviously havent quit smoking weed yet, or havent had enough time to pass a piss test from weed

it took me over 50 days to pass a piss test 4 weed, after 45 days of not smoking pot i still failed a drug test and got locked up,

2 days after smoking spice i passed the drug test, so, yeah i guess u all should take more like 60 days after pot to take a drug test, then say something!

not only do people not want to get in legal trouble for pot
but for them it means going through the military justice system as well as the u.s. legal system

having said this i have never tried spice
but if the right opportunity presents itself it could be an experience

the reason i smoke it is that i get drug tested. i've been tested 2 times since i started spice and they've both been negative:)

recently i've developed a cough which has made me question the health factor of spice. and also i got a few small bumps at the back of my throat that i can just barely feel with my tongue. this scared me a lot so i told myself i'd stop for 2 weeks (i usually smoke kind of a lot, like 2-3 times a day).

this is when i noticed that spice can be a little addicting. i thought about it a lot and always wanted to go buy some more. i would forget that i decided to stop. i WAS able to stop though, after like 3 or 4 days.

DONT smoke spice if you can smoke weed. there have been a few tests on spice that say its alright, but really we never know. weed, as we know, is safe and always more than ok to smoke. just be careful with your body; you only have one.

if you get tested by your mom, smoke this stuff until you get enough negative drug tests for her to trust you again, then go back to weed. i would always rather smoke weed; its natural, nontoxic, nonaddictive, and all-around beautiful. DON'T smoke spice if you can smoke weed.

ps i will continue smoking till i get the answer hahaha

I have been doing a light amount of research on the topic. It seems there are many variants of JWH-018 out there and they all seem to be currently under the radar as far as testing is concerned.

I would like to say that after trying it, it would be wise to try only a small amount before you imbibe a massive quantity. I wouldn't advise rolling a 'j' unless it is going to be divided up among some friends as it can be pretty intense. It may be a good idea to make a spliff with a small amount if you happen to roll your own cigarettes.

-JWH-018 is not tested for by any organization, and is 100% legal in the United States except for Kansas.

-One gram of JWH-018 will last you most likely weeks considering a good smoke-able dose is between 2-5 mgs. There are 1000 mgs in 1 Gram of jwh.

-When you purchase online now, you can request that your package be hand delivered if you’re in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.

-Jwh-018 is four to five times more potent than THC.

-So while before thos pot head was doomed, he now smokes a legal alternative on a regular basis jwh-018 with absolutely no side effects.

-It is Not carcinogenic and Not CYTOTOXIC under moderate levels… so that means that it does not harm brain cells nor have the possibility of causing cancer since it doesn’t do any damage to our DNA.

-If you simply can’t smoke weed, are on probation, or take some type of urine tests this letter is for you. It’s finally now your turn to get as high as you want and do it safely and responsibly.

-The website doesn’t reference the getting high part obviously because it wants to stay under the radar of the man, its manufactured as bonsai feeder and not for human consumption yet so much research promotes its safety.
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Many spices I've tried aren't as good as quality bud, but demon and peace out are as good if not better than any bud around. Even though they're a little more expensive where I'm from, it's definitely worth it if you have to pass a drug test.

Also, I disagree that spice will necessarily become illegal. There are way more pot sympathizers and smokers out there now than ever, many in positions of power. With all the recent decriminalization acts, I think after one more generation dies out, pot will be completely legal.

That pretty much conflicts with what everyone else reports, so if I were you I would assume a false positive, a clerical mistake, or that they were trying to screw you. Either way, demand to see the results, and demand to be retested.

im on intensive juvenile probation, and i got caught with a few crumbs left in a container that used to have 1 gram in it.

i got a class 6 undesignated felony for it.
and another class 6 undesignated felony for the container it was in, being "paraphernalia"

and they took my blood and found something in it that indicated i was smoking the spice.

its ridiculous! but my lawyer says there is nothing i can do about it, but take it to trial.
i admitted so i wont go to jail

arizona is TOUGH as hell on weed.
and becoming extremely tough on spice too.

although, you can still buy it in the smoke shops here.

i guess i got a felony because im not 18. but still, you wouldnt give a felony to a kid for tobacco possession right?

ridiculous.

I'm on probation as well, however my worries are if it shows in hair follicle drug tests, or urine tests.... I take urine tests weekly, and hair tests monthly... if anyone has anyone experience with being urine/hair tested as being a regular spice smoker, PLEASE SPEAK UP.

Thanks,
Sabih

An interesting assertion. If you could provide any links it would be appreciated!

If it is true that "swelling of the brain" occurred, my guess is that it would have been caused by some kind of contamination or by-product in the material. Millions of people have smoked these things by now, and if brain swelling were common enough that six people sufferent from it in one town, I would be surprised that it wouldn't be common knowledge after tens of thousands of people were hospitalized.

Either that, or the kids were doing something they shouldn't be doing, and decided to claim/blame it on something legal, not that it's likely for kids to do anything like that, of course!

... Users seek a marijuana-like high with the ability to pass a standard drug test. Technically they are fully legal and with no current prohibitions. The various preparations of these chemical cannabinoid substitutes are sold as "Spice" or "K2."...

Armentano is also an expert on drug testing. Natural marijuana uses the delta-9-THC molecule mainly to produce the high, thus standard drug screens only look for THC metabolites. "You could create some test for these synthetic cannabinoids," Armentano said.

But that will probably take months to produce and market. Smoke 'em while you got 'em.

YOU MUST BE SMOKING SOME WEAK ASS SHIT AND GETTING RIPPED OFF THEN...BECAUSE

When I get bud, it's goddamn delicious and knocks you on your ass.

Tried the Spice though, it's interesting but doesn't feel like weed...not at ALL worth the ridiculous price.

i havnt eaten it yet but im sure youll be stoned for teh whole day which probably wont be good. spice is just about as harmless as marijuana, your smoking so you risk cancer, and you get stoned. the high on weed is much less pleasant for me, dunno why.

it doesnt show up in a drug test there is no thc, its two chemicals that produce a thc like high, and many other psycoactive drugs that can produce differnet feelings.

one thing i noticed is sometimes i depend on spice to be entertained or happy or w.e. but its not like its hard to quit. depends on the person really. people get addicted to pot smoking right?

i do not promote drug use. I do want spice to continue to be legal, i see no problem with it, AND IF THERE WERENT NEWS ARTICLES POINTING OUT ITS A DRUG IT WOULD REMAIN UNDERGROUND. cops can catch whoever has spice, but dont ban it by putting it on the news.
overall i give spice a thumbs up.

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