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New improved Placebo announced!

In a paper published today in The Journal of the American Medical Association, patients given higher priced placebos reported more pain relief than those given a discounted placebo.

The investigators had 82 men and women rate the pain caused by electric shocks applied to their wrist, before and after taking a pill. Half the participants had read that the pill, described as a newly approved prescription pain reliever, was regularly priced at $2.50 per dose. The other half read that it had been discounted to 10 cents. In fact, both were dummy pills.

The pills had a strong placebo effect in both groups. But 85 percent of those using the expensive pills reported significant pain relief, compared with 61 percent on the cheaper pills. The investigators corrected for each person’s individual level of pain tolerance.

“It’s a great finding,” said Guy H. Montgomery, an associate professor of cancer prevention at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine who was not involved in the research. “Their manipulation of price affected expectancies of drug benefit, and pain is the ultimate mind-body phenomenon.”

The appearance of the pill also had an affect on perceived effectiveness:

Previous studies have shown that pill size and color also affect people’s perceptions of effectiveness. In one, people rated black and red capsules as “strongest” and white ones as “weakest.” Other information like the country where the drugs were manufactured can also affect perceptions.

“It’s all about expectations,” said the lead researcher, Dan Ariely, a behavioral economist at Duke...

The marketing meetings and focus groups at the Big Pharma companies must be really weird, trying to figure out the best color, shape, size, name, and price for maximum perceived efficacy. If bottles of aspirin went up in price by a dollar, would more people use it? Would fewer men get reliable erections if Viagra were pink? Would Vioxx have been as popular if they'd dropped one of the 'X's in the name? Would DoseNation staffers get as high if our 2-C-T-Special-G were free? I can only answer the last question. Yes, yes we do.

Posted By NaFun at 2008-03-05 13:23:49 permalink | comments
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zupakomputer. : 2008-03-10 12:50:46
That was the point - I don't like being condescended to, like I have to conform to someone's imagined version as to what pro-drug and pro-freedom people should be like.
As said, I don't have a problem if anyone wants to sell their body to science. I've seen those ads before in the homeless magazines here; they pay people a lot of money to take drugs and test them, without knowing what they are taking. I wouldn't recommend it, but it's a personal choice.

And what's with also trying to make me feel like I did something wrong for commenting a lot? Is there a limit on how many comments I'm meant to post, or some unspoken law there also where I'm supposed to know to change my username every x amount of comments maybe?

I don't like irresponsible people, if anyone has a problem with that - tough f*cking shit. I see them as contributing to why drugs are illegal, cause they can't have a good time w/o ruining things for others in some way. That's not cool. Cool doesn't need to tread on other folks toes.

HellKatonWheelz. : 2008-03-08 12:55:31
That's awful condescending coming from someone who's commented on nearly every post this week. But good luck with your moral high ground!
zupakomputer. : 2008-03-08 10:29:51
Simple answer to that is: I'm commenting on an internet blog-style article website, not 'hanging' with anyone - certainly not the kinds of people that mass-associate their individuality into some kind of group mindset.

If people want to sell their bodies to science experimenters then that's fine by me - but the fact is that that is a whole other separate area from the important drug-related issues.

guest : 2008-03-06 20:47:10
true that zupa. justification for higher prices. "we charge more so they'll work better."
HellKaotnWheelz. : 2008-03-06 10:50:14
zupakomputer, I'm not sure what crowd you think you're hanging with in these parts. There's lab rats o'plenty around here.
zupakomputer. : 2008-03-06 09:33:23
Did they bother to take into account the type of person that would willingly go along with such tests in the first place, or consider how the majority of people don't even know anyone who's even been asked to do such tests, nevermind have had the 'opportunity' to do so themselves.

Very small control group; not really representative of the majority of people.

And besides - yes, we know hypnosis works and to what extent. It's been proven already. Let's move on.

(as an aside, my one and only contact with a similar type of study - for how television adverts are percieved, only proved to me just how inaccurately they are able to measure what people really think anyway - the questions had no room at all to state your real opinion, you only had a limited choice of multiple tick boxes, drawn from a bunch of answers they wanted you to choose from - none of which went anyway near to the reality of the situation.)

They're playing themselves.

jamesk : 2008-03-05 20:51:15
It's funny that all these placebo studies are about pain, which demonstrates how much pain is associated with expectation and perception. I would like to see if placebo birth control pills or antibiotics worked as well placebo "quit whining and suck it up" pills. How about placebo blood-pressure medication, or maybe placebo Viagra? I've had enough bunk dope, paper, and party pills to know that plecebo don't cut it in the recs department. Perhaps we should limit the efficacy of placebo to fibromyalgia and phantom limb syndrome, and perhaps depression, ennui, and restless-leg syndrome. It also makes a refreshing breath mint.

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