New Trend: Candyflipping?

I see it like this. If you tell kids you can't have a cookie out of the cookie jar, they're going to want a damn cookie from the cookie jar.

You can't lie to them, or they will learn you lied, and now you are a liar to your kids. You asked for it and deserve it. (Slight forgiveness if it was propaganda-induced and you had no ability to know otherwise or reason to doubt the powers informing you.)

Or, you can be honest with them. If you have experience with the drugs, share, if not, share what you know (but be aware that if it's all scare and third hand info, it's not likely to be correct). Then explain to them how they are KIDS, and still developing at a RAPID pace. After about 21 or so, different body parts noticeably decrease their expansion rate and never really move further, this happens at many points before and after, 'age' is a conception for our time and doesn't really exist to our bodies, they just grow.

The point is, is NOONE knows, what it could do to you (the kid) BECAUSE of this reason. We know alcohol and tobacco can severely fuck up a growing baby, so perhaps when young, it's best to keep the body pure?

The benefit is you are teaching them ONLY good, self-reinforcing habits backed with reason. The downside is you have to be honest and spend the time and effort to explain it to them in a way that they will understand. It's hard and unique to every situation, there is no 'Oh well I paid for him to get that class so he knows better' solution for this, unless our education system wants to buck up, but that ain't happenin.

Anyway, parents out there, if you are reading, have faith in your child, you were a child once, were you more stupid then than you were now? I'd wager in some ways you were damn smart, and I don't even have to wager, the evidence speaks for itself that children are damn smart. We are humans, it's what we do. But we are stupid without each other, they can only know what they have access to learn, you have limited control over that, so you might as well make the value of learning from you so good they want it, rather than deciding their friends and an article from the internet know better than you (sometimes they do).

I just know there is NOTHING wrong with MDMA, LSD, DMT, Psilocybin, or Mescaline. But there IS something wrong with seeing nothing but 13 year old girls half naked rolling balls in a cement warehouse. I never touched a substance of any nature (aside from Tylenol and Advil, which, mind you, kill more than MDMA each year...) until I was 18, and I think I benefitted greatly.

I wish no ill will towards those 13 year old girls, but I am glad I'm not them in ten years. Then again, mayhaps nothing will come out wrong if they play their cards right and understand how to work tolerance curves, but, since noone with experience is around or has the good will to teach them, they won't, and more will always be the answer. Unless maybe LSD or DMT kicks em and makes em understand otherwise, it worked for me.

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yeah really out of date. I always enjoyed candy fliipping ,great fun.These days in my neck of the woods its MDMA crystal. And it is so nice its untrue.

I started using recreationally in earnest when I was 34, and I'm glad I waited. I wouldn't have been able to integrate what I was experiencing if I had done it much earlier in my life.

+1 to what Nowhere Girl said about explaining to kids that one needs to be ready before trying magic herbs and crystals.

Why "shouldn't" kids be doing that? People give perfectly rational reasons for taking this combination. No, actually I don't think KIDS should be doing any drugs - it's better to have some patience and wait until one is grown up enough to really be able to appreciate the experience (if everything turns out right, I will finally have my first psychedelic experience on my 30th birthday) - but Unagetoverer sounds as if zhe thought today's kids should be "wiser". No they aren't, there are and will always be people interested in psychedelics - that's why, in the War on Drugs (war on consciousness), only drugs can win. ;)
Btw, a friend of mine has a 7-year-old daughter and tells her about "magic herbs" and "magic crystals" (= LSD) and why they aren't good for children - and I was just amazed to hear her saying with such a serious voice that one has to be really well prepared...

In highschool my friends used to do it quite dangerously once, back in the priordays of hallucinogenic rc's;

Rolling all night on mostly speedy pills.
Then, wake up with no food in the stomach and a mission to go to a rave, have no food just one cup of coffee, one glass of wine.
Upon arriving, inhail nitrous & get some acid. drop another speedy roll, and smoke weed.
Then we are told three hours in that we where given 5meoamt, 3 hours away from home, in the middle of the desert.
Ah the good old days, how my mind could have survived thoes times, I do not know.
LSD+MDMA seems like anotherstory in comparison almost.

dont know about new. i did it first in 98.

"Taking a combined dose of LSD and MDMA would likely result in short-term psychosis, hallucinations, synesthesia (Transposing of visual and auditory signals to the brain), and an altered perception of reality."

Well, yeah. In other news, drinking beer gets you drunk.

Candyflipping is one of the most profound drug experiences I've ever had. For the record, I distinguish between a "true" candyflip and just having LSD and MDMA in my system at the same time. It took me until my third try to get what I'd call a "true" flip, where the MDMA and the LSD are peaking at the same time and are just perfectly balanced. Wowsers.

how is flipping anything a new trend?
nexusflip ftw personaly I feel lsd is an excellent "feeling of welbeing" all on its own as well;)

i have yet to try it... i can't wait, i hear great things :D

Never done MDMA+LSD,... good thing they didn't write about Psychedelic Mushrooms+LSD...haha, I guess that isn't too popular though ;)

Now that is intense.

I cant get over how ridiculously out of date this date. I have grown so much out of experimentation with both these drugs that for me this is like reading about old Nintendo games or something.

Im just an old fart at 26 that has calmed down with smoke and drink...

What amazes me though is that kids still do this.

Meh. All the kool kids are into hippie flips.

this is bs. "candyflipping" has to be one of the best drug experiences out there at the moment, in terms of both physical feeling and emotional/intellectual richness.

This just in: teenagers are rolling up buds from marijuana plants into paper "joints," lighting them on fire, and inhaling the smoke! How slowly and painfully will it kill YOUR child? tonight at 11.

^^ what he said

"Taking a combined dose of LSD and MDMA would likely result in short-term psychosis, hallucinations, synesthesia (Transposing of visual and auditory signals to the brain), and an altered perception of reality."

This here is the point of the whole thing, don't you think?

The thing is, people take mdma with lsd because mdma tends to keep the lsd trip happy. The wimpy hallucinogenic effect of mdma is totally smashed by the mighty iron fist of the lsd, but as long as the mdma is around it brightens up the whole experience and helps to prevent an lsd induced voyage into Hell.

The drug interaction comments in that article sound like supposition to me, not fact. I doubt the two drugs have much do with each other. MDMA is a little bit dangerous. Not VERY dangerous (if the kids at a rave were drinking booze many more of them would get hurt) but not entirely safe, either. LSD seems to be very safe, as long as you don't decide to jump out the window or otherwise self-destruct.

The trouble with this scare mongering nonsense is the way it assumes kids are just too dumb to detect a lie when they hear one. Many are, but many are not, and once you've been lied to you discount anything else the liar is telling you. This is how so many kids wind up making drug mistakes and getting hurt.

The truth is that some drugs are more dangerous than others, and it would be nice if the government and the damn press would just stick to the truth. If you rank drugs on a scale of harmfulness, lsd and marijuana would be near the bottom, and the most powerful opiates at the top, with alcohol somewhere in the middle. Ecstasy should lie somewhere between alcohol and lsd.

They call it a "new trend" LOL

What a pile of idiots.