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Harry Potter and the underage drinking of wizards

I haven't been following Harry Potter mania, but a recent article about the latest Potter flick caught my attention. Apparently in the newest film (and presumably the book it's based on), the Potter crowd are growing up - and turning to alcohol to calm their nerves. This very serious NYTimes piece examines the possible impact such depictions might have on the film's young audience:

In one scene, Harry, Ron and Hermione order butterbeers at the pub, and Hermione ends up with a frothy mustache. While it’s never been entirely clear whether butterbeer is alcoholic, it seems to have an effect on the normally uptight Hermione, who acts tipsy walking home as she throws her arms around the boys.
As the mother of a 10-year-old Harry Potter fan, I was taken aback by the reaction of the young people in the theater. They snickered at Hermione’s goofy grin and, later, guffawed when an inebriated Hagrid passed out. While I don’t think my daughter fully understood what was going on, I wondered how other parents, educators and addiction experts would react.

Liz Perle, a mother of two teenage boys and the editor in chief of Common Sense Media, which reviews books, movies and Web content aimed at children, said she was bothered by so many scenes showing alcohol as a coping mechanism.

“Hermione is such a tightly wound young lady, but she’s liberated by some butterbeer,” she said. “The message is that it gives you liquid courage to put your arms around the guy you really like but are afraid to.”

Naturally not everyone shares a worried perspective:

Other parents were less concerned. Daniel Isaacs, a New York advertising copywriter, said his 9-year-old daughter didn’t notice the drinking scenes. “The Harry Potter universe is not our own,” he said. “Trying to put 2009 American norms into play seems kind of silly.

“Plus, in a world where dark wizards are kidnapping or killing people on a regular basis, a little under-age drinking is the least of their problems.”

But for me, of course, the most priceless quote in the article comes from the movie studio responsible for this madness:

Warner Brothers, which released the movie, said the drinking scenes were “open to different interpretations.”

“One of our main objectives in bringing the Harry Potter films to the screen has been to remain as faithful to their original source material as created by J. K Rowling,” the company wrote in an e-mail message, adding that the wizarding world “should not be held to the same standards as the real world.”

I don't remember this kind of outcry over all the pipe weed smoking in the LOTR films, but I guess it's a little harder to identify with those characters. Regardless, as a non-parent, my opinion on this topic is borderline useless, but the discussion is thought-provoking regardless. The article cites a few studies that purport to show a relationship between smoking & drinking in the movies, and subsequent adoption of that behavior by kids, which no one would likely argue is something we want to encourage; but eliminating such depictions from the arts in cases where they have meaningful roles to play seems ridiculous on the face of it. Aaaanyway, not my problem. But in the mantime, Slashfood went trolling through a Potter fan site to find a good butterbeer recipe, so have it!

Posted By Scotto at 2009-08-08 17:45:11 permalink | comments
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guest : 2010-02-12 13:35:25
This is a bit over the top! Who cares! Kids drink, its a fact of life and its not as if they were stoned in the movie, she wasn't even drunk! What is this world coming to?

Let HP charcaters drink nothing bad happens because of it.

Crawford Tillinghast. : 2009-08-11 10:22:43
Wonder if any of these folks have heard of Hairy Pothead and the Marijuana Stone?

[link]

Synchronium.net. : 2009-08-09 12:36:48
DT - I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed: [link]
DT. : 2009-08-09 08:24:49
Half-Blood Prince is filled with scenes of drugs and altered states, alcohol is the least of it. The best scene is where Harry takes wizard cocaine, which is known as "Felix Felicis." The book depicted this substance as very cocaine-like, and the filmmakers certainly saw it that way. The scenes of coked-up Harry running around are great. Of course, it's completely over the kids' heads.

There's also a long scene where Ron is intoxicated with a "love potion." The NYTimes article missed all this.

Anonymous. : 2009-08-09 07:04:53
Honestly, I took my nine year old and two of his friends, and the butterbeer scenes were pretty much a non-issue. They weren't particularly interested; there were much more engaging actions in the movie.

I think kids are much more directly affected by seeing their parents drink. A scene in a movie like this is lost in the noise. When they're young its over their head and uninteresting. By the time the kids are interested in drinking I think their attitudes and behaviors are more complex than "let's be like Harry Potter!"

Gwyllm. : 2009-08-09 02:13:22
The drinking age in the UK is not 16 anymore. You can drink at 16 in Scotland with a meal. 18 is the drinking age otherwise.
dreamdust. : 2009-08-08 22:52:21
The fact of the matter is drugs and food are the main coping mechanism for most people. Alcohol as a copying method is widespread. Kids don't need Harry Potter to learn this.

This article assumes a lot, but what pisses me off is assuming how naive these kids are.

Adam. : 2009-08-08 22:47:24
That is an excellent point, positron. They are also of age to smoke in the UK, and we don't see a whole lot of that going on. Maybe J.K. Rowling realized that a world without teens drinking would be pushing the boundaries of fantasy a little too far. :-)

"As the mother of a 10-year-old Harry Potter fan, I was taken aback by the reaction of the young people in the theater."

I think it's worth noting that people laughing at her behaviour while drunk can go either way, it's not always an indication something is being glorified.

positron. : 2009-08-08 19:54:20
The fact is that at 16, Ron, Harry and Hermione are of legal drinking age in the UK.
Anonymous. : 2009-08-08 19:25:39
“The message is that it gives you liquid courage to put your arms around the guy you really like but are afraid to.”

I'm not really a fan of alcohol (as far as drugs go it kind of sucks), but that seems like a pretty accurate message. But I guess the moral guards of our children would prefer a more accurate one? Like throwing your arms around the boy you don't like?

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